This is a Liberty Octagon (there are no optic lines, so no "Optic" in the title) CHS, with the Liberty Rose cutting, and a "Drape" edge cutting. The height, to the top of the handle is 4 & 3/4", and the measurement flat-to-flat, is 10 & 3/8", and point-to-point is 11 & 1/4".